I have played here many times and find the comps here are excellent! They send me $50 freeplay a week. I rarely walk out ahead but that's gambling for ya! The staff is very nice too!

The Ft Sill Apache Casino should be illegal because American Indian tribes are only allowed to build casinos on FORMER RESERVATION LAND. The Ft Sill Apache tribe never had a "former reservation" but were placed on Comanche, Kiowa, and Kiowa-Apache reservation land. Through shady dealing, the representatives who wanted to build this casino convinced a naive (or well paid off?) Bureau of Indian Affairs big shot to make a secret determination that "Yes", the Kiowa-APACHE designation applied to the Ft Sill Apache tribe, and that "Yes" they thus "HAD" former reservation land. This was done in secret and the Ft Sill Apache Tribe commenced building before the Kiowa-Comanche-Apache tribes, the true former reservation tribes found out about it. They were not consulted, notified of intent, or anything, just boom, they were building.

The Kiowa-Apache tribe is now known as the Plains Apache Tribe and has its own casino in Anadarko OK. They are a distinct and separate Apache band that roamed the plains and then allied themselves as a sub-tribe of the Kiowas. When the Comanches agreed to let the Kiowas share reservation land in the treaty of Medicine Lodge, KS, they also agreed to take the Kiowa-Apaches also, and thus the two tribes ended up with the Comanches and are referred to as the KCA land owners, and have a KCA land-use committee of whcih the Ft Sill Apache tribe is not party.

The Ft Sill Apaches arrived on the reservation in question as prisoners of war allowed to build houses until they could be dealt with and their status changed. The treaty stipulating that they could temporarily be housed on KCA land also stipulated that the land they occupied along with the land carved out of the reservation for Ft Sill would revert back to the KCA tribes upon the end of their usage. It did not grant the Ft Sill Apaches a "reservation". And thus they should not be able to claim a former reservation through that method. Coming in under the guise as "Apaches" because the Kiowa-Apaches were granted a reservation is in all intents and purposes, an illegal move by the Interior Department.

Taken to court over this matter, the Ft Sill Apaches got the Interior Department to side with them on the definition of Apache and as "former reservation land owner". Furious, the KCA's could not get another determination.

The management of the Ft Sill Apache tribal gaming organization made some bold moves to attempt to place gaming machines in New Mexico but were blocked by New Mexico authorities, and this almost became a physical confrontation to close off the parts of New Mexico that the State shut down. I do not place blame on the Ft Sill Apache Business Committee, who are mostly untrained in Casino Management or gaming businesses, but the outside casino management that came in and worked through the Tribe to make the bold moves they have made to date. This boldness seems to have been taken to new heights in the current operation of the casino. What started out as a small cozy place where the winnings seem to be on par with nationwide casinos has deteriorated into a place where no bells are ringing for winners, and no jackpots are seen on a regular basis by those who have been long time customers. Most customers now know each other and almost all agree that the casino's chips, which the customers witnessed being changed, were changed for worse. Extra levels of "choice" have been introduced to knock off, further, the chance of winning. The bold moves, almost out in the open, are said to increase the casinos profits because they are now planning a seven or so story Hotel.

Save your money and go to Vegas. Apache used to be the best, but since they started remodeling, paybacks odds on the slots have changed to practically nothing. They gotta pay for that new hotel somehow!

To all the others who have said, "Where is the payout" : I respect your opinions and thoughts though and thank you for posting them.. However, with gambling comes inherit risks of losing money. Having **high expectations** of winning all the time while you are in any casino -- spending thousands or just a few dollars-- is just not realistic. Gambling is exactly that.. .GAMBLING. I am sorry that you feel as though the payouts aren't what you had hoped for. Someday, we hope, all of our ships will come in. IMO, consideration should be given to the quality of the entire experience (not just the payouts).



Customer service at this little casino is a "A-B-C-D" thing (A)bove and (B)eyond the (C)all of (D)uty. All other casino gaming experiences should have this experiential aspect of hospitality. The upgraded facilities make it look like Las Vegas in Oklahoma and the entire experience has changed drastically in the last few years. The friendly service is awesome. The employees there make gaming fun...even when I'm losing my shirt! The TYPE of slots, the games, the Player's Club and all aspects are 5+ in my book. The food is excellent as the menu has expanded...and is amazing cuisine for a low price!! It keeps me there, rather than going across town to eat to come back and play more.



Have I won and lost at Casinos? Sure, you bet. Do I wish that the payouts were more... Absolutely...but I don't **expect** to win. Gambling is entertainment at best..with a hope that winnings exceed payout. But realistically, the HOUSE always wins.



This casino changed the customer gaming experience so dramatically in the last three years that the area can be proud of it -- now. Last year, this little Casino pumped $10 MILLION into the surrounding economy...as far as winners go they boast $465 million in payouts last year alone!! I've been in many places where the atmosphere is way beyond intolerable due to extreme smoke, drug dealings, ladies of the evening about the bar, etc...I would rather lose LOTS of money in this casino...than win BIG in a casino with those negative aspects lurking about.



Give it another shot folks...and being a betting sort... I bet your luck will change...if you just look at things alittle differently.

GREAT CASINO...keep it going. Hear they are building a hotel soon... and they can count me in as a guest!



GOOD LUCK TO ALL

What does it take in Oklahoma to have a casino, that will let you play? You have to spend a lot of money here. And you still dont hit anything. The only machines you see hiting are the $5 and $10 ones. And you have to max bet on all of them. Don’t they know people are broke? And sometimes would just like to play for a little while and relax.

Don’t waste your money here at this casino. The casinos in Lawton, Oklahoma are a joke.

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I must say this casino is one of the best by far...I'm employed there so I'm there just about everyday. It’s just a blessing to be greeted with smiles everyday...we go to and beyond our ~eye hi good~ motto...i love these guys.

Also the payouts are well known throughout Oklahoma.

I play so much money here and i only get $7.oo players club money and I never win or hit a jackpot, what does it take? I have played 300 to 500 dollars. Where's the luck at?