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Address
5218 Patrick Road
City
Verona
State
New York
Zip Code
13478
Country
United States
Phone
(315) 361-7711

Toll-Free Number: (800) 771-7711
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Rooms: 572 Price Range: $130-$229
Suites: 143 Price Range: $179-$595
Restaurants: 14 Liquor: No Valet Park: $5
Buffets: B-$8.95/$10.95 (Sat/Sun)
L-$12.95/ $14.95 (Fri/Sat)/$16.95 (Sun)
D-$16.95/$21.95 (Fri/Sat)/$19.95 (Sun)
Casino Size: 122,000 Square Feet
Games Offered: Slots, Video Poker, Craps, Roulette, Caribbean Stud Poker, Baccarat, Mini-Baccarat, Poker, Let It Ride, Pai Gow Poker, Bingo, Three Card Poker, Four Card Poker, Keno, Big Six Wheel, Casino War
Overnight RV Parking: No
Special Features: Three golf courses. Gift shop. Discount smoke shop. 800-seat
showroom. 175-space RV park ($45 per night/$55 weekends).

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We just attended the $10,000 bingo games on 4/19. We played the Million Dollar Games and had a good time so we decided to come back. To start, I want to make it clear we're not lightweighters when it comes to playing bingo. Between my sister and myself, we spent approximately $1,200 to play all of the games (mini sessions, early birds, superminis, main session, specials, MP, etc). I can't imagine what people spent who played the electronic bingo machines!

The day started out good. We played the early games and had our meal, which was included in the price of admission. The meal was cafeteria style but it was decent. As we played the warmup games (the set immediately prior to the main session) we started to get excited for the chance to win $10,000.

The main session started and almost immediately people started having trouble with the electronic bingo machines. Each time there was a problem the caller would announce that the game would have to be held. This happened over and over and over again for the entire session. There were no less than 48 times that the session was held up (we know this because people counted and kept track)! As a result of the technical difficulties with the electronic bingo machines the session ran over by well over two hours.

The session was not enjoyable by any stretch of the imagination. This sentiment was shared by the 1,000+ other patrons in the bingo hall. There is no excuse for this level of system disruption. Some of the bingo hall staff confirmed that bingo hall management has known about the problems with wireless connectivity and the electronic bingo machines for months. The right thing to do would have been to not sell the machines but greed clearly won that battle. Management felt that getting every single dollar out of electronic sales was worth more than having a smooth bingo session. The expression of complacency on management's faces while all of this was going on is confirmation that this was an expectation rather than an unexpected occurrence.

Finally, for the best part of the whole experience. The new management of the bingo hall, a man and a woman (not Bingo Bob as he was referred to), made an announcement that due to the inconvenience, all players were going to be compensated. This compensation would not be based on how much a person spent but rather it was a flat amount. That amount: 200 points. If you're familiar with Turning Stone's new system that equals $2.00 worth of comps. The kicker was that the comps wouldn't be available for two days. You couldn't even use the comps after the session. Unfreakinbelievable.

There are a lot of reviews on here that speak of how tight the machines are at Turning Stone. What happened at the $10,000 games is just another example of that greed manifesting itself and driving patrons away in the process. We will not return to Turning Stone and we encourage others to do the same.
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Reviewed by J April 21, 2014

$10,000 Bingo Games - Never Again!

We just attended the $10,000 bingo games on 4/19. We played the Million Dollar Games and had a good time so we decided to come back. To start, I want to make it clear we're not lightweighters when it comes to playing bingo. Between my sister and myself, we spent approximately $1,200 to play all of the games (mini sessions, early birds, superminis, main session, specials, MP, etc). I can't imagine what people spent who played the electronic bingo machines!

The day started out good. We played the early games and had our meal, which was included in the price of admission. The meal was cafeteria style but it was decent. As we played the warmup games (the set immediately prior to the main session) we started to get excited for the chance to win $10,000.

The main session started and almost immediately people started having trouble with the electronic bingo machines. Each time there was a problem the caller would announce that the game would have to be held. This happened over and over and over again for the entire session. There were no less than 48 times that the session was held up (we know this because people counted and kept track)! As a result of the technical difficulties with the electronic bingo machines the session ran over by well over two hours.

The session was not enjoyable by any stretch of the imagination. This sentiment was shared by the 1,000+ other patrons in the bingo hall. There is no excuse for this level of system disruption. Some of the bingo hall staff confirmed that bingo hall management has known about the problems with wireless connectivity and the electronic bingo machines for months. The right thing to do would have been to not sell the machines but greed clearly won that battle. Management felt that getting every single dollar out of electronic sales was worth more than having a smooth bingo session. The expression of complacency on management's faces while all of this was going on is confirmation that this was an expectation rather than an unexpected occurrence.

Finally, for the best part of the whole experience. The new management of the bingo hall, a man and a woman (not Bingo Bob as he was referred to), made an announcement that due to the inconvenience, all players were going to be compensated. This compensation would not be based on how much a person spent but rather it was a flat amount. That amount: 200 points. If you're familiar with Turning Stone's new system that equals $2.00 worth of comps. The kicker was that the comps wouldn't be available for two days. You couldn't even use the comps after the session. Unfreakinbelievable.

There are a lot of reviews on here that speak of how tight the machines are at Turning Stone. What happened at the $10,000 games is just another example of that greed manifesting itself and driving patrons away in the process. We will not return to Turning Stone and we encourage others to do the same.

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TURNING STONE WITH RON

I have not always liked Turning Stone as a place to play poker. In limit there are only 2-4 games and generally only one table with the same regulars.

These folks are very tight.

Overcoming the rake is impossible.

And seating is at a premium. Sometimes I have to wait an hour. Friday night I came with my Four Fisgh book, but that night they seated me right away. There is no changing tables for better selection of opponents. I left that 2-4 table and played 1-2 no limit because the table was just too tight.

Foxwoods and Mohegan are both better venues for limit poker.

I have been hesitant to play no limit because I don’t really have the bankroll to play it, and I’m not ready to put $300 at risk in a single hand, especially to the risk of a bluff when I end up with second best after the river and my opponent is representing the best hand.

However, I’ve been developing a low chip no limit play where I buy in close to the minimum, rebuy if I lose, and then leave if I win.

I like it. I think it rewards good play because everything is not risked on one hand.

It reduces the ability of my opponents to bluff. They might draw out on me, but they can’t represent a river hand that they don’t have. Meanwhile, I can often bet just a small amount on the river when I have a good hand and get called. I might even have second best hand, bet, and get called by third best.

This happened when a river 4 of clubs made my opponents flush and my full house. I did not have a 4, but I had a deuce, slow played from the beginning. It was second best, but I could bet $30, and I was called by the flush.

If I win, then I have to walk away and do something else for an hour or so, until I can buy in again for the minimum amount. Or I can go and play 2-4.

I played a good bit of poker, much more than the 4 hours required for the poker rate. And I had a fine time.

All of my winning sessions on this trip were on no limit tables, and I’d have come out well ahead had I played much less poker and just skipped the 2-4 games. I ended behind $242.

Later on Friday night and then on Saturday night I was in loose 2-4 games that do offer good action and can be beaten by luck more than skill. Once playable cards are selected, they often need to be played until the end, even on a draw; preflop aggressive raising and capping creates pot odds if the turn and river are not bet aggressively.

This happened the last day at a table where most of my losses were realized.

On Friday night I played against an old fellow who was “off the leash” because his wife had gone to Buffalo from where they lived near Utica/Rome. He had gone to a cheap movie in Oneida, was playing poker, and would go to the movies again at midnight. They wintered in Santa Barbara, California, and he was delightful for sharing stories and banter.
He told about his neighbor who had been shot down in WWII and then paraded by the Germans in uniform to show they had captured the enemy. German soldiers wanted to switch uniforms with him just so they might get something to eat. He was fed. They were not.

Next to this old fellow was a reserved young girl, but we managed to her laughing a bit. She was pregnant and her husband was playing at a no limit table. She was pretty reserved, but with a bit of banter, she opened up and laughed and joked some. She plays no limit. I played with her the second day. Her manner at the table was a no limit manner where body language can make or break a win.

On Saturday a friendly fellow bought some of my silver strikes. This $8 sale brought my return on my $100 investment up to about $53. It might be more; I lost count last Vegas trip. My goal is to break even and have plenty of rings left to use as chips for poker games or to live a long, long life and so sell them all. It is a fine hobby. I have expanded to collecting and making card protectors out of "found" materials. Perhaps I’ll start a business. Here is the one I made from two rocks found on Headwaters Beach, Ohio.

The photo does not do it justice. What I like is that the white stone is a great handle and the piece is both heavy and yet can be set up on a stack of chips between hands.

The Turning Stone dealers were very good. There were very few mistakes and only one that seemed at all a bit in a daze. Dealers were better than Foxwoods, especially when Foxwoods has a poker tournament, pulls the poker dealers for it, and replaces them with blackjack dealers who don’t even know the game.
I hate that.
I pay for the dealer to pay attention to the game for me. I don’t want to have to correct dealer mistakes.

Tony, the brush recognized me from an earlier trip report, perhaps on Blonde’s Board. That was an odd coincidence. Nice of him to shake my hand.

On Friday night I played a $15 tournament and went for 3 hours. I was exhausted, but it was a lot of poker for that little bit. 67 started, and I guess I left with about 17 players yet to go to the 3 who would be paid. I played pretty well. I just got blinded down and then had to go all in on a close possibility. No rebuys. No bounties. The cheapest tournament I have seen in a long while anywhere.

It does seem they are trying new promotions to attract players. The bad beat was up to $208,000 and an incredible fantasy, but they are talking of high hand awards every so often or specials on club flushes. I wish they would do cracked Aces.

Other gambling included a run using the slow hedge at the craps table. I came out after a few times around down $10.

I had not used my matchplay and that was a mistake. The matchplays are only good weekdays, and I should have used mine on Thursday. I lost the use of it. Hard to imagine my missing a matchplay. It reinforces the idea that coupons need to be played off early in a visit.

I watched some of the young ones play “Beat the Dealer,” a new game that looks a bit like SicBo and a bit like craps, is simple to understand, and has a much higher vigorish than craps. It is located in the same area and attracts those intimidated with craps play, perhaps confused by all the choices and the game itself. I like watching this game. I’d never play it. Not at an 11.27% house edge.

http://wizardofodds.com/games/beat-the-dealer/

Poker buddy and old neighbor Ron went up for one overnight, and I went for two. The poker did not go well for Ron, and he did not have as much fun as I did. Too bad.
We used coupons for $20 off the poker rate and so stayed right in the hotel for $66 a night. I liked the room, loved the pool and the easy access, enjoyed myself. I’d do that again.
The room was better than most of those I get in Vegas. The view was of the parking garage, but it was not right under the window. Directly in front of me were plenty of green trees that had been places around a driving circle. Pines were full of cones, and maples were scattered in between.

It was pleasantly quiet. There were no noises. I liked that.
The room did not have a refrigerator, but it had a safe and a great coffee pot that made 3 large cups with Seattle coffee, and a nice flat screen TV that worked easily.

The bathroom was plenty big enough with good directions on how to switch the water to the showerhead, plenty of towels, Nice large soaps, good water pressure. The flush did make a bit of too much noise, so I skipped that in the night so as not to wake my light sleeping buddy.

Plugs were abundant, so it was simple to put in the apnea machine and to plug into the lamp base for use of my little traveling computer for the free wifi. Wifi was easy as well, although I could not seem to get two people on using the one computer and move between them, so I could not play the MyVegas for Elizabeth. She kept that up to date from home.

There were two desks, so there was plenty of room.

I have stayed in their cheaper Inn down the road and this room was a definite upgrade.

I went up to the Savoy restaurant in Rome twice,
http://beta7.ictgllc.com/theromesavoy/Home.aspx once with Ron and once on my own. It is one of my favorite places to eat in the world. It feels to me like going back into the 50’s and going to an old fashioned Italian restaurant with linens on the table and an old and interesting bar as well as a wild collection of wall hangings that include sports banners, photos of officers from the old Rome Air Base, odds and ends of things, even a painting of Langston Hughes. I sat under that on my second visit and watched the traffic in and out of the kitchen and listened to the live piano player as he wandered through old music. For “Luck be a Lady” he included the usually skipped introduction. “When you wish upon a Star” was followed with “Somewhere over the Rainbow.” There was "When Sunny gets Blue." I loved all of it.

The greeter is a very old woman in a shawl like sweater with a bun who escorts people to tables and moves chairs in spite of the fact that she walks with a cane. She is just a wonderful character.
I was solo and it was a crowded night on Friday, but she gave me a choice of seats, and I picked one against the back wall in the center where I can watch the pretty girl waitresses (especially the blond with the sexy librarian look) and also see the pianist and any entering customers. The movement keeps me entertained.

Then the servers and clearers all bustle about and take very good care of the customers. The place was packed. There was a din of conversation like we might hear in an old live recording of a jazz club. I did overhear one conversation.


“Beets, beets, I just love beets! And I can’t figure out why.”

“Martha...now she makes the best beets….I love them, he beets. Really! I just love beets.”


Ron seemed to like the place. He likes Sam Adams on tap. However, his meal did not agree with him. Probably too much garlic. He had a pasta dish with hat pasta, mushrooms, and vegetables. I had some of it, and it was very good. I ate some of the mushrooms and broccoli cold for the next days breakfast. I had two chicken dishes, one a French dish and one with another marinade. Both came with great risotto.

When I asked for a side of anchovies for my Caesar salad, they came without an extra charge. Nice.
I had the house wine. There was a cheaper wine called table wine, but I went for the $6 chianti.
http://www.concannonvineyard.com/wines/glenellenreserve/

Casino Food was a bit more expensive than Vegas, and I did not bring my usual nuts and fruit for the morning. I ate free at the buffet twice. I liked the breakfast offerings better than the lunch offerings, but on Friday lunch included some old time music for seniors and a sale price of $10 so it used up less of my karat comp points. There was a place to dance. I just watched.

This weekly event is a great DJ presentation with two large screens showing black and white videos of the performers back in the days of the Dick Clark show. The performances were not perfectly in sync with the sounds, but it was still great to watch them. I loved it. I’d like to go with Elizabeth or some dancing partner. I am no longer good at dancing with strangers.

Also, in that area was the Scare-a-thon, a convention for folks who like old horror movies. Many of them were dressed gothic or in horror costume. One fellow actually had the beginnings of two horns growing out of his head. I really think they were implants and not makeup. He had them on when he went on the elevator to his room with his wildly dressed girlfriend.
It takes a good bit of dedication to a hobby interest to have horn like nubs implanted in the forehead. I would not have my card protectors growing out of my forehead.

I did not pay to see the main displays or the B movies but just walked about to see the people.
They were entertaining.

I also watched the dancing in the lounge on Friday night around midnight. It was like being in a nightclub with no cover and the opportunity to watch the dancing girls and people over the short wall without even needed to buy a drink or being in the lounge. I liked that for entertainment as well.

There were paid dancers in two places and plenty of pretty girls dancing on the floor. Most everyone was about 18-25, but mixed in was a woman of about 70 having a fine time dancing and singing along to all the modern music. I loved watching her. It is so fine that some older folks can keep active and feel comfortable mixing with the younger ones and I loved seeing what a grand time she was having. Perhaps she was there with her grandchildren. Nice.

I swam three times and loved the pool. The water was not super hot and did not seem chlorinated. It seemed to help my psoriasis. Perhaps there were salts in the water. The Jacuzzi was hot and it worked fine too. It was empty except for one family on one occasion and shaped in a way that made swimming in circles easy.

On Saturday I saw this show.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_Albums_Live

They were doing Abbey Road by the Beatles. It was just great. I got a seat very near the front and in the center. The sound is the thing for this group, not costume, not egocentric talks, just the album, note for note, cut for cut.

Then they took a break and followed with another set of songs the Beatles had sung, again with the intention of doing them just as they were done:

“Hello,Hello”

“Long and Winding Road”

“Oh La Dee, Oh La Dah, Life Goes on”

“Mother Nature’s Son”

“No Where Man”

“I am the Walrus”

“This Boy”

“Mr. Postman”

“You Say its Your Birthday”

“Let It Be”

“Twist and Shout”

So it was a fine mix and an amazing performance with so many musicians to pick up any small nuance that the Beatle’s included in their music.

I was particularly moved by “Let It Be” and amazed that after all the times I have heard this song, a live presentation could have that affect. I wish I could let things be more often instead of having them wear on me.

The drummer in particular was spectacular and wonderful.

And since the entire show was about sound, the sound was perfect. It was loud, but it did not grate on the ears. There were no mike aberrations. Sound was adjusted constantly, new for each song as were often the instruments. Just one of the best things I have seen.

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Reviewed by dewey089 September 19, 2013
Last updated: September 19, 2013

3 days at Turning Stone

TURNING STONE WITH RON

I have not always liked Turning Stone as a place to play poker. In limit there are only 2-4 games and generally only one table with the same regulars.

These folks are very tight.

Overcoming the rake is impossible.

And seating is at a premium. Sometimes I have to wait an hour. Friday night I came with my Four Fisgh book, but that night they seated me right away. There is no changing tables for better selection of opponents. I left that 2-4 table and played 1-2 no limit because the table was just too tight.

Foxwoods and Mohegan are both better venues for limit poker.

I have been hesitant to play no limit because I don’t really have the bankroll to play it, and I’m not ready to put $300 at risk in a single hand, especially to the risk of a bluff when I end up with second best after the river and my opponent is representing the best hand.

However, I’ve been developing a low chip no limit play where I buy in close to the minimum, rebuy if I lose, and then leave if I win.

I like it. I think it rewards good play because everything is not risked on one hand.

It reduces the ability of my opponents to bluff. They might draw out on me, but they can’t represent a river hand that they don’t have. Meanwhile, I can often bet just a small amount on the river when I have a good hand and get called. I might even have second best hand, bet, and get called by third best.

This happened when a river 4 of clubs made my opponents flush and my full house. I did not have a 4, but I had a deuce, slow played from the beginning. It was second best, but I could bet $30, and I was called by the flush.

If I win, then I have to walk away and do something else for an hour or so, until I can buy in again for the minimum amount. Or I can go and play 2-4.

I played a good bit of poker, much more than the 4 hours required for the poker rate. And I had a fine time.

All of my winning sessions on this trip were on no limit tables, and I’d have come out well ahead had I played much less poker and just skipped the 2-4 games. I ended behind $242.

Later on Friday night and then on Saturday night I was in loose 2-4 games that do offer good action and can be beaten by luck more than skill. Once playable cards are selected, they often need to be played until the end, even on a draw; preflop aggressive raising and capping creates pot odds if the turn and river are not bet aggressively.

This happened the last day at a table where most of my losses were realized.

On Friday night I played against an old fellow who was “off the leash” because his wife had gone to Buffalo from where they lived near Utica/Rome. He had gone to a cheap movie in Oneida, was playing poker, and would go to the movies again at midnight. They wintered in Santa Barbara, California, and he was delightful for sharing stories and banter.
He told about his neighbor who had been shot down in WWII and then paraded by the Germans in uniform to show they had captured the enemy. German soldiers wanted to switch uniforms with him just so they might get something to eat. He was fed. They were not.

Next to this old fellow was a reserved young girl, but we managed to her laughing a bit. She was pregnant and her husband was playing at a no limit table. She was pretty reserved, but with a bit of banter, she opened up and laughed and joked some. She plays no limit. I played with her the second day. Her manner at the table was a no limit manner where body language can make or break a win.

On Saturday a friendly fellow bought some of my silver strikes. This $8 sale brought my return on my $100 investment up to about $53. It might be more; I lost count last Vegas trip. My goal is to break even and have plenty of rings left to use as chips for poker games or to live a long, long life and so sell them all. It is a fine hobby. I have expanded to collecting and making card protectors out of "found" materials. Perhaps I’ll start a business. Here is the one I made from two rocks found on Headwaters Beach, Ohio.

The photo does not do it justice. What I like is that the white stone is a great handle and the piece is both heavy and yet can be set up on a stack of chips between hands.

The Turning Stone dealers were very good. There were very few mistakes and only one that seemed at all a bit in a daze. Dealers were better than Foxwoods, especially when Foxwoods has a poker tournament, pulls the poker dealers for it, and replaces them with blackjack dealers who don’t even know the game.
I hate that.
I pay for the dealer to pay attention to the game for me. I don’t want to have to correct dealer mistakes.

Tony, the brush recognized me from an earlier trip report, perhaps on Blonde’s Board. That was an odd coincidence. Nice of him to shake my hand.

On Friday night I played a $15 tournament and went for 3 hours. I was exhausted, but it was a lot of poker for that little bit. 67 started, and I guess I left with about 17 players yet to go to the 3 who would be paid. I played pretty well. I just got blinded down and then had to go all in on a close possibility. No rebuys. No bounties. The cheapest tournament I have seen in a long while anywhere.

It does seem they are trying new promotions to attract players. The bad beat was up to $208,000 and an incredible fantasy, but they are talking of high hand awards every so often or specials on club flushes. I wish they would do cracked Aces.

Other gambling included a run using the slow hedge at the craps table. I came out after a few times around down $10.

I had not used my matchplay and that was a mistake. The matchplays are only good weekdays, and I should have used mine on Thursday. I lost the use of it. Hard to imagine my missing a matchplay. It reinforces the idea that coupons need to be played off early in a visit.

I watched some of the young ones play “Beat the Dealer,” a new game that looks a bit like SicBo and a bit like craps, is simple to understand, and has a much higher vigorish than craps. It is located in the same area and attracts those intimidated with craps play, perhaps confused by all the choices and the game itself. I like watching this game. I’d never play it. Not at an 11.27% house edge.

http://wizardofodds.com/games/beat-the-dealer/

Poker buddy and old neighbor Ron went up for one overnight, and I went for two. The poker did not go well for Ron, and he did not have as much fun as I did. Too bad.
We used coupons for $20 off the poker rate and so stayed right in the hotel for $66 a night. I liked the room, loved the pool and the easy access, enjoyed myself. I’d do that again.
The room was better than most of those I get in Vegas. The view was of the parking garage, but it was not right under the window. Directly in front of me were plenty of green trees that had been places around a driving circle. Pines were full of cones, and maples were scattered in between.

It was pleasantly quiet. There were no noises. I liked that.
The room did not have a refrigerator, but it had a safe and a great coffee pot that made 3 large cups with Seattle coffee, and a nice flat screen TV that worked easily.

The bathroom was plenty big enough with good directions on how to switch the water to the showerhead, plenty of towels, Nice large soaps, good water pressure. The flush did make a bit of too much noise, so I skipped that in the night so as not to wake my light sleeping buddy.

Plugs were abundant, so it was simple to put in the apnea machine and to plug into the lamp base for use of my little traveling computer for the free wifi. Wifi was easy as well, although I could not seem to get two people on using the one computer and move between them, so I could not play the MyVegas for Elizabeth. She kept that up to date from home.

There were two desks, so there was plenty of room.

I have stayed in their cheaper Inn down the road and this room was a definite upgrade.

I went up to the Savoy restaurant in Rome twice,
http://beta7.ictgllc.com/theromesavoy/Home.aspx once with Ron and once on my own. It is one of my favorite places to eat in the world. It feels to me like going back into the 50’s and going to an old fashioned Italian restaurant with linens on the table and an old and interesting bar as well as a wild collection of wall hangings that include sports banners, photos of officers from the old Rome Air Base, odds and ends of things, even a painting of Langston Hughes. I sat under that on my second visit and watched the traffic in and out of the kitchen and listened to the live piano player as he wandered through old music. For “Luck be a Lady” he included the usually skipped introduction. “When you wish upon a Star” was followed with “Somewhere over the Rainbow.” There was "When Sunny gets Blue." I loved all of it.

The greeter is a very old woman in a shawl like sweater with a bun who escorts people to tables and moves chairs in spite of the fact that she walks with a cane. She is just a wonderful character.
I was solo and it was a crowded night on Friday, but she gave me a choice of seats, and I picked one against the back wall in the center where I can watch the pretty girl waitresses (especially the blond with the sexy librarian look) and also see the pianist and any entering customers. The movement keeps me entertained.

Then the servers and clearers all bustle about and take very good care of the customers. The place was packed. There was a din of conversation like we might hear in an old live recording of a jazz club. I did overhear one conversation.


“Beets, beets, I just love beets! And I can’t figure out why.”

“Martha...now she makes the best beets….I love them, he beets. Really! I just love beets.”


Ron seemed to like the place. He likes Sam Adams on tap. However, his meal did not agree with him. Probably too much garlic. He had a pasta dish with hat pasta, mushrooms, and vegetables. I had some of it, and it was very good. I ate some of the mushrooms and broccoli cold for the next days breakfast. I had two chicken dishes, one a French dish and one with another marinade. Both came with great risotto.

When I asked for a side of anchovies for my Caesar salad, they came without an extra charge. Nice.
I had the house wine. There was a cheaper wine called table wine, but I went for the $6 chianti.
http://www.concannonvineyard.com/wines/glenellenreserve/

Casino Food was a bit more expensive than Vegas, and I did not bring my usual nuts and fruit for the morning. I ate free at the buffet twice. I liked the breakfast offerings better than the lunch offerings, but on Friday lunch included some old time music for seniors and a sale price of $10 so it used up less of my karat comp points. There was a place to dance. I just watched.

This weekly event is a great DJ presentation with two large screens showing black and white videos of the performers back in the days of the Dick Clark show. The performances were not perfectly in sync with the sounds, but it was still great to watch them. I loved it. I’d like to go with Elizabeth or some dancing partner. I am no longer good at dancing with strangers.

Also, in that area was the Scare-a-thon, a convention for folks who like old horror movies. Many of them were dressed gothic or in horror costume. One fellow actually had the beginnings of two horns growing out of his head. I really think they were implants and not makeup. He had them on when he went on the elevator to his room with his wildly dressed girlfriend.
It takes a good bit of dedication to a hobby interest to have horn like nubs implanted in the forehead. I would not have my card protectors growing out of my forehead.

I did not pay to see the main displays or the B movies but just walked about to see the people.
They were entertaining.

I also watched the dancing in the lounge on Friday night around midnight. It was like being in a nightclub with no cover and the opportunity to watch the dancing girls and people over the short wall without even needed to buy a drink or being in the lounge. I liked that for entertainment as well.

There were paid dancers in two places and plenty of pretty girls dancing on the floor. Most everyone was about 18-25, but mixed in was a woman of about 70 having a fine time dancing and singing along to all the modern music. I loved watching her. It is so fine that some older folks can keep active and feel comfortable mixing with the younger ones and I loved seeing what a grand time she was having. Perhaps she was there with her grandchildren. Nice.

I swam three times and loved the pool. The water was not super hot and did not seem chlorinated. It seemed to help my psoriasis. Perhaps there were salts in the water. The Jacuzzi was hot and it worked fine too. It was empty except for one family on one occasion and shaped in a way that made swimming in circles easy.

On Saturday I saw this show.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_Albums_Live

They were doing Abbey Road by the Beatles. It was just great. I got a seat very near the front and in the center. The sound is the thing for this group, not costume, not egocentric talks, just the album, note for note, cut for cut.

Then they took a break and followed with another set of songs the Beatles had sung, again with the intention of doing them just as they were done:

“Hello,Hello”

“Long and Winding Road”

“Oh La Dee, Oh La Dah, Life Goes on”

“Mother Nature’s Son”

“No Where Man”

“I am the Walrus”

“This Boy”

“Mr. Postman”

“You Say its Your Birthday”

“Let It Be”

“Twist and Shout”

So it was a fine mix and an amazing performance with so many musicians to pick up any small nuance that the Beatle’s included in their music.

I was particularly moved by “Let It Be” and amazed that after all the times I have heard this song, a live presentation could have that affect. I wish I could let things be more often instead of having them wear on me.

The drummer in particular was spectacular and wonderful.

And since the entire show was about sound, the sound was perfect. It was loud, but it did not grate on the ears. There were no mike aberrations. Sound was adjusted constantly, new for each song as were often the instruments. Just one of the best things I have seen.

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Four guys went to Turning Stone primarily for a golfing outing. The golf courses are absolutely amazing and I have no complaints about the actual golfing. It's everything else that absolutely shocked me.

Food and Beverage:
Seems like it takes forever to get your meal, didn't matter which restaurant. The wait staff seemed untrained; at least the waitresses we had, they took forever, and couldn't answer simple questions. One member of our party is a vegetarian and they couldn't make a pasta alfredo without pancetta? If it's cooked to order how can they not leave out an ingredient?

Hotel Front Desk:
Upon check-in the keys to the room didn't work. I returned to the desk for another set, opened the door to find a room that was already occupied. I went back to the desk and was offered an apology, but no upgrades or credit. A new room was issued and those keys didn't work. Once more I returned to the front desk and still no offer for upgrade or credit. I was offered to have a bellhop accompany me to the room to make sure the door opened. So instead of owning up to the problem they made me feel incompetent.

Upon checkout one room was charged one rate and the other room was charged a significantly lower rate. I went to the front desk to question this and the clerk admitted to making the error stating that she was fixing it. Instead of bringing the other room down they reissued a charge to the credit card without the owner of the card being there. If I hadn't gone back in we would have never been advised of the change in charges.

Rooms: The rooms are spacious, the views from some rooms kind of suck, they look out to parking garages or parking lots. The beds are really soft. If you have a bad back watch out. You're gonna wake up sore.

Casino Floor: Typical casino, I wish the smoking vs the non-smoking areas were separated better. There's really no difference in air quality between the two. Every dealer there is a "cooler" I didn't see anyone winning. I was ecstatic to break even.

Overall, I won't be going back. The golf was great but I can go plenty of other places.
Overall rating 
 
1.9
Slots 
 
1.0
Table Games 
 
2.0
Customer Service 
 
1.0
Player's Club 
 
3.0
Gaming Atmosphere 
 
2.0
Amenities or Hotel 
 
3.0
Food & Drink 
 
1.0
Reviewed by William Coady May 23, 2013
Last updated: May 23, 2013

Great golf, not much else

Four guys went to Turning Stone primarily for a golfing outing. The golf courses are absolutely amazing and I have no complaints about the actual golfing. It's everything else that absolutely shocked me.

Food and Beverage:
Seems like it takes forever to get your meal, didn't matter which restaurant. The wait staff seemed untrained; at least the waitresses we had, they took forever, and couldn't answer simple questions. One member of our party is a vegetarian and they couldn't make a pasta alfredo without pancetta? If it's cooked to order how can they not leave out an ingredient?

Hotel Front Desk:
Upon check-in the keys to the room didn't work. I returned to the desk for another set, opened the door to find a room that was already occupied. I went back to the desk and was offered an apology, but no upgrades or credit. A new room was issued and those keys didn't work. Once more I returned to the front desk and still no offer for upgrade or credit. I was offered to have a bellhop accompany me to the room to make sure the door opened. So instead of owning up to the problem they made me feel incompetent.

Upon checkout one room was charged one rate and the other room was charged a significantly lower rate. I went to the front desk to question this and the clerk admitted to making the error stating that she was fixing it. Instead of bringing the other room down they reissued a charge to the credit card without the owner of the card being there. If I hadn't gone back in we would have never been advised of the change in charges.

Rooms: The rooms are spacious, the views from some rooms kind of suck, they look out to parking garages or parking lots. The beds are really soft. If you have a bad back watch out. You're gonna wake up sore.

Casino Floor: Typical casino, I wish the smoking vs the non-smoking areas were separated better. There's really no difference in air quality between the two. Every dealer there is a "cooler" I didn't see anyone winning. I was ecstatic to break even.

Overall, I won't be going back. The golf was great but I can go plenty of other places.

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This casino is great!
Overall rating 
 
5.0
Slots 
 
5.0
Table Games 
 
N/A
Customer Service 
 
5.0
Player's Club 
 
5.0
Gaming Atmosphere 
 
5.0
Amenities or Hotel 
 
N/A
Food & Drink 
 
5.0
Reviewed by jane mitchell January 28, 2013
Last updated: January 30, 2013

High Roller Casino?

This casino is great!

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I came to visit family in the area and had been sent some free play. It just so happened that I was there when my free play was active.
I don't spend a lot gambling I just like to play for the fun of it. I was able to play on my free play a few times and never spend a penny of mine 3 different times I was there! To me that was winning! I had a great time on the slots.
As for the food...we went to the Fri buffet and as I was eating my mashed potatoes I found a hair in them. I couldn't eat another bite. I told the waitress and she was supposed to tell the manager but I don.t believe she did.
My mom had a voucher for a free room. They put us up in the older part of the hotel. It was just OK. Not real great but not real bad either.
I was just happy I didn't have to use any of my $ to have some fun in the casino.
Overall rating 
 
3.8
Slots 
 
4.0
Table Games 
 
N/A
Customer Service 
 
4.0
Player's Club 
 
4.0
Gaming Atmosphere 
 
5.0
Amenities or Hotel 
 
3.0
Food & Drink 
 
3.0
Reviewed by Hannelore Hinman September 30, 2012
Last updated: October 08, 2012

Great time!

I came to visit family in the area and had been sent some free play. It just so happened that I was there when my free play was active.
I don't spend a lot gambling I just like to play for the fun of it. I was able to play on my free play a few times and never spend a penny of mine 3 different times I was there! To me that was winning! I had a great time on the slots.
As for the food...we went to the Fri buffet and as I was eating my mashed potatoes I found a hair in them. I couldn't eat another bite. I told the waitress and she was supposed to tell the manager but I don.t believe she did.
My mom had a voucher for a free room. They put us up in the older part of the hotel. It was just OK. Not real great but not real bad either.
I was just happy I didn't have to use any of my $ to have some fun in the casino.

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If you are a slot player stay away from the Turning Stomach. Have gone there for over 10 years and yet to have a win requiring an attendant. Frequently you hear over the loudspeaker "It's another lucky day at Turning Stone" and they announce some big supposed winner (funny how you never seem to see attendants paying anyone). You come away with the impression that these slot machines have been programmed by a miserly relative of Jack Benny's. Best to stay away unless you enjoy slot-induced agita.
Overall rating 
 
1.8
Slots 
 
1.0
Table Games 
 
N/A
Customer Service 
 
2.0
Player's Club 
 
2.0
Gaming Atmosphere 
 
2.0
Amenities or Hotel 
 
2.0
Food & Drink 
 
2.0
Reviewed by statical2003 September 06, 2012
Last updated: September 07, 2012

Turning Stomach Slots

If you are a slot player stay away from the Turning Stomach. Have gone there for over 10 years and yet to have a win requiring an attendant. Frequently you hear over the loudspeaker "It's another lucky day at Turning Stone" and they announce some big supposed winner (funny how you never seem to see attendants paying anyone). You come away with the impression that these slot machines have been programmed by a miserly relative of Jack Benny's. Best to stay away unless you enjoy slot-induced agita.

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I have been going to this casino since they opened. Over the years I have been able to make my money last less and less. It is nothing these days for $100 to last 1/2 hour and that is at a minimum bet. I think I have learned my lesson and will go elsewhere.
Overall rating 
 
1.0
Slots 
 
1.0
Table Games 
 
1.0
Customer Service 
 
1.0
Player's Club 
 
1.0
Gaming Atmosphere 
 
1.0
Amenities or Hotel 
 
1.0
Food & Drink 
 
1.0
Reviewed by mary March 11, 2012
Last updated: March 12, 2012

No longer good for me

I have been going to this casino since they opened. Over the years I have been able to make my money last less and less. It is nothing these days for $100 to last 1/2 hour and that is at a minimum bet. I think I have learned my lesson and will go elsewhere.

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Been a regular out at this casino since their doors opened...whats that...18yrs now for Turning Stone Resort & Casino...well we have stayed out there twice and the rooms were nice & spacious but we have never had a comp room out there...we must not be high roller enough. We get our freeplay and go out in earlier times we would go 3 times a week...we have only hit a a few jackpots in all 18yrs the biggest for my husband was $6,000.00 a few years ago...my biggest hit ever was $2,900.00 the last time I hit was 1year 6 months ago $1,600.00...they used to be real good about giving you a food comp if you asked for one but in the last 3 years that has all changed...now if you ask for a food comp at the end of your typical losing session they do not give ya $30.00 food comp now its more like $10.00 off your food bill, but we always enjoy the Emerald Room and the bake shop...I am not a big alcohol drinker but I still feel that most people are losing their butts out there and the casino should show appreciation and all drinks should be free on the gaming floor...every other casino I have been to offers free alcoholic drinks, Casino Niagra, Senecas, Mohegans, Foxwoods as well as others so why not Turning Stone??? We only go out there as a distraction to play the slots use our freeplay and our money. So in fairness they do offer alot things of things to do...none of which we do like stay out there, we don't do the Club, Tennis, golfing, shows etc. So if it's just to gamble Turning Stone is just a small-time casino that's a time waster so it's not the casino to be at unless you are maybe a newbie or part of the 60 & up crew older folks seem to be the winners out there...the last Mr Lucky prize patrol last month all the winners of the 7pm drawing were all older on those slot machines at Turning Stone...many other much better pay out casino's. Turning stones slots are really sleepers and will not get my money in 2012. I will move onto another better casino.
Overall rating 
 
2.6
Slots 
 
1.0
Table Games 
 
3.0
Customer Service 
 
3.0
Player's Club 
 
1.0
Gaming Atmosphere 
 
2.0
Amenities or Hotel 
 
4.0
Food & Drink 
 
4.0
Reviewed by kris September 02, 2011
Last updated: September 02, 2011

Not a Good Casino..dont waste your money...if you

Been a regular out at this casino since their doors opened...whats that...18yrs now for Turning Stone Resort & Casino...well we have stayed out there twice and the rooms were nice & spacious but we have never had a comp room out there...we must not be high roller enough. We get our freeplay and go out in earlier times we would go 3 times a week...we have only hit a a few jackpots in all 18yrs the biggest for my husband was $6,000.00 a few years ago...my biggest hit ever was $2,900.00 the last time I hit was 1year 6 months ago $1,600.00...they used to be real good about giving you a food comp if you asked for one but in the last 3 years that has all changed...now if you ask for a food comp at the end of your typical losing session they do not give ya $30.00 food comp now its more like $10.00 off your food bill, but we always enjoy the Emerald Room and the bake shop...I am not a big alcohol drinker but I still feel that most people are losing their butts out there and the casino should show appreciation and all drinks should be free on the gaming floor...every other casino I have been to offers free alcoholic drinks, Casino Niagra, Senecas, Mohegans, Foxwoods as well as others so why not Turning Stone??? We only go out there as a distraction to play the slots use our freeplay and our money. So in fairness they do offer alot things of things to do...none of which we do like stay out there, we don't do the Club, Tennis, golfing, shows etc. So if it's just to gamble Turning Stone is just a small-time casino that's a time waster so it's not the casino to be at unless you are maybe a newbie or part of the 60 & up crew older folks seem to be the winners out there...the last Mr Lucky prize patrol last month all the winners of the 7pm drawing were all older on those slot machines at Turning Stone...many other much better pay out casino's. Turning stones slots are really sleepers and will not get my money in 2012. I will move onto another better casino.

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If you are solely a slot or VP player then you probably want to skip this place. As many of the reviews suggest, it has low payouts on all machine gambling. All money to be wagered is put on the Player's card and then inserted in the machine. Especially unnerving are freeplay offers where the offered "freeplay" is then taken back when you cash in a profit. Suppose you take a Yankee Trails bus up and get $15 freeplay as part of the deal. You play slots conservatively and when you are ready to quit, you have $40 on your card. The freeplay of $15 is deducted when you cash back in. So those of us who take the bus there tend to play slots with very high volatility and either hit or don't. My poker buddy slink hit for $760 one day. Nice on free play. He did not mind giving back the $15.
Blackjack pays 3:2. The games are multiple deck. I believe that craps allows just 3-4-5 X the odds. Sometimes the minimum is as low as $5.
The poker room offers some pretty good games. There are periodic tournaments and always some no limit games. Most days there are 2-4 limit games. 3-6 is sometimes offered, but tends to fill up with the same locals. The 2-4 is a better choice.
Alcohol is not available, but it is very expensive. Some of us still do what we did when the casino was dry. We bring in a flask, say rum, and mix it with a coke. Done discreetly under the table seems not to be an issue.
There is a building bad beat. In order to qualify each player must have a current poker card. It costs $2 a day to play in this casino and the card must be visible at all times while playing. Dealers are fanatic about this. It must be able to be read by the eye in the sky. Rumor has it that some dealers lost their jobs over this issue.
One interesting thing is this casino is open to 18 year olds and older. That is rare in casinos. They must be 21 to order alcohol, but they can play. Sometimes this makes for some real newbie poker games, especially on Saturday night.
The rooms are nice and there is a little pool. Slot players will get regular comped rooms. Poker players can get a poker rate which can be as low as $55 at The Inn, a motel like place just down the road. A shuttle will pick up and deliver to that location. However, since probably you are not going to do much drinking there, you can get good deals in nearby motels. My choice is the Super 8 in Oneida on a RoomSaver coupon. However, since the prices go up on weekends and yet the live poker is better then, I put a mattress in my car and go camping at the Landing Campground about fifteen minutes away.
www.landingcampgrounds.com
Here for $25 a night I get an electrical hookup for my sleep apnea machine, a short walk to the bathroom and free wifi while I have my breakfast on the provided picnic table. The owner is very friendly and does not mind me quietly driving in at 2 AM after a night of poker. In the morning I can fish on two sides of the peninsula that is the campground (see photo on site)

No limit competition can be very tough or very soft depending on the luck of table selection. There are some regulars there who are tricky, but generally the game is beatable.
The worst part of the poker room is the rake which is taken right away so that I won't play short handed games of limit poker because up to 33% of the pot might be raked if the pot is low, but over a certain amount. I can't quite remember the exact details, but ask before you play and if it makes a difference, take a walk and come back when you can get on a full table. You can call ahead to get on the list, and generally there is not much of a wait. Sunday is the worst for limit poker. I don't bother until the afternoon.
Dealers are friendly and for the most part the games are well monitored. Sometimes dealers seem distracted when it is Sunday afternoon and some sports event is on the tube, but that can distract players as well.
The food at Turning Stone is very good. Sometimes the buffet is pricey, especially the Sunday prices. Playing live poker, a small comp is earned each hour, but you must check in and remember to have them swipe you out as well, or you won't get followed.

I better like the 8 mile drive into Rome and the great meals and often live entertainment at the Savoy restaurant. This is a step back in time, a wonderfully rich wooden bar area, real linen tablecloths, and great food at a reasonable price.
www.romesavoy.com
While you eat, fine rat pack era music plays if there is no live entertainment. The entire place is decorated with signed photographs and newspaper articles, some very rare. This is my favorite restaurant anywhere. Not far from the restaurant, in the heart of Rome, is Fort Stanwick, worth a visit.
www.nps.gov/fost/index.htm

The casino is worth a walk through. There are some decorative areas reflecting Native American art and interest.
Entertainment comes on a regular basis. Some comedy, Some musical concerts and shows. Terry Fator is there in August and sold out.
Bingo is offered 7 days a week, and is considered pretty good as bingo goes.

Overall rating 
 
3.3
Slots 
 
1.0
Table Games 
 
4.0
Customer Service 
 
4.0
Player's Club 
 
3.0
Gaming Atmosphere 
 
3.0
Amenities or Hotel 
 
4.0
Food & Drink 
 
4.0
Reviewed by dewey089 August 03, 2011
Last updated: August 04, 2011

both Sides of Turning Stone

If you are solely a slot or VP player then you probably want to skip this place. As many of the reviews suggest, it has low payouts on all machine gambling. All money to be wagered is put on the Player's card and then inserted in the machine. Especially unnerving are freeplay offers where the offered "freeplay" is then taken back when you cash in a profit. Suppose you take a Yankee Trails bus up and get $15 freeplay as part of the deal. You play slots conservatively and when you are ready to quit, you have $40 on your card. The freeplay of $15 is deducted when you cash back in. So those of us who take the bus there tend to play slots with very high volatility and either hit or don't. My poker buddy slink hit for $760 one day. Nice on free play. He did not mind giving back the $15.
Blackjack pays 3:2. The games are multiple deck. I believe that craps allows just 3-4-5 X the odds. Sometimes the minimum is as low as $5.
The poker room offers some pretty good games. There are periodic tournaments and always some no limit games. Most days there are 2-4 limit games. 3-6 is sometimes offered, but tends to fill up with the same locals. The 2-4 is a better choice.
Alcohol is not available, but it is very expensive. Some of us still do what we did when the casino was dry. We bring in a flask, say rum, and mix it with a coke. Done discreetly under the table seems not to be an issue.
There is a building bad beat. In order to qualify each player must have a current poker card. It costs $2 a day to play in this casino and the card must be visible at all times while playing. Dealers are fanatic about this. It must be able to be read by the eye in the sky. Rumor has it that some dealers lost their jobs over this issue.
One interesting thing is this casino is open to 18 year olds and older. That is rare in casinos. They must be 21 to order alcohol, but they can play. Sometimes this makes for some real newbie poker games, especially on Saturday night.
The rooms are nice and there is a little pool. Slot players will get regular comped rooms. Poker players can get a poker rate which can be as low as $55 at The Inn, a motel like place just down the road. A shuttle will pick up and deliver to that location. However, since probably you are not going to do much drinking there, you can get good deals in nearby motels. My choice is the Super 8 in Oneida on a RoomSaver coupon. However, since the prices go up on weekends and yet the live poker is better then, I put a mattress in my car and go camping at the Landing Campground about fifteen minutes away.
www.landingcampgrounds.com
Here for $25 a night I get an electrical hookup for my sleep apnea machine, a short walk to the bathroom and free wifi while I have my breakfast on the provided picnic table. The owner is very friendly and does not mind me quietly driving in at 2 AM after a night of poker. In the morning I can fish on two sides of the peninsula that is the campground (see photo on site)

No limit competition can be very tough or very soft depending on the luck of table selection. There are some regulars there who are tricky, but generally the game is beatable.
The worst part of the poker room is the rake which is taken right away so that I won't play short handed games of limit poker because up to 33% of the pot might be raked if the pot is low, but over a certain amount. I can't quite remember the exact details, but ask before you play and if it makes a difference, take a walk and come back when you can get on a full table. You can call ahead to get on the list, and generally there is not much of a wait. Sunday is the worst for limit poker. I don't bother until the afternoon.
Dealers are friendly and for the most part the games are well monitored. Sometimes dealers seem distracted when it is Sunday afternoon and some sports event is on the tube, but that can distract players as well.
The food at Turning Stone is very good. Sometimes the buffet is pricey, especially the Sunday prices. Playing live poker, a small comp is earned each hour, but you must check in and remember to have them swipe you out as well, or you won't get followed.

I better like the 8 mile drive into Rome and the great meals and often live entertainment at the Savoy restaurant. This is a step back in time, a wonderfully rich wooden bar area, real linen tablecloths, and great food at a reasonable price.
www.romesavoy.com
While you eat, fine rat pack era music plays if there is no live entertainment. The entire place is decorated with signed photographs and newspaper articles, some very rare. This is my favorite restaurant anywhere. Not far from the restaurant, in the heart of Rome, is Fort Stanwick, worth a visit.
www.nps.gov/fost/index.htm

The casino is worth a walk through. There are some decorative areas reflecting Native American art and interest.
Entertainment comes on a regular basis. Some comedy, Some musical concerts and shows. Terry Fator is there in August and sold out.
Bingo is offered 7 days a week, and is considered pretty good as bingo goes.

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My husband and I have been going there since it opened. We used to have a lot of fun there, and we go 1-3 times a week and we have to drive an hour to get there. Now the place is absolutely terrible! If they turned the machines down any more they would be shut off. My favorite game use to be the nickle superball game now it is so boring you have all you can do not to fall asleep. Actually my husband has fallen asleep. And the free Plays , all that is , is their way of getting you there and putting money on your card. We get a coupon for a free room, we used to stay but we don' stay anymore. By the time we get done on the slots we pay for that room, plus some. As you are playing there is a lot of complaining going on around you. Very, very seldom do we come out of there with what we started with and that is a win for us. If you have never been there save your money. It's not worth it. The hotel is very nice and the food is good too, our favorite place to eat is the Emerald room good food and lots of it. All in all it's just not what it used to be !!!!!!!!
Overall rating 
 
2.6
Slots 
 
1.0
Table Games 
 
1.0
Customer Service 
 
4.0
Player's Club 
 
1.0
Gaming Atmosphere 
 
3.0
Amenities or Hotel 
 
4.0
Food & Drink 
 
4.0
Reviewed by Terri July 31, 2011
Last updated: July 31, 2011

Not what it used to be

My husband and I have been going there since it opened. We used to have a lot of fun there, and we go 1-3 times a week and we have to drive an hour to get there. Now the place is absolutely terrible! If they turned the machines down any more they would be shut off. My favorite game use to be the nickle superball game now it is so boring you have all you can do not to fall asleep. Actually my husband has fallen asleep. And the free Plays , all that is , is their way of getting you there and putting money on your card. We get a coupon for a free room, we used to stay but we don' stay anymore. By the time we get done on the slots we pay for that room, plus some. As you are playing there is a lot of complaining going on around you. Very, very seldom do we come out of there with what we started with and that is a win for us. If you have never been there save your money. It's not worth it. The hotel is very nice and the food is good too, our favorite place to eat is the Emerald room good food and lots of it. All in all it's just not what it used to be !!!!!!!!

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I don't play the slot machines at Turning Stone unless they send me "freeplay" to play with. That being said, I thuroughly enjoy myself playing blackjack at TS. They give me whatever comps I ask for, including discounted or free rooms, free packs of cigarettes all day and night, and free food. They also have 2-deck blackjack now which I have done well at.
The rooms in the hotel are nice, but the rooms in the Tower are just gorgeous! My one complaint would be the late check in time of 3pm.
The buffet is very good, although not as good as it was when they first opened. I have also eaten at Emeralds, which is sort of dinner/burger joint. I give them a thumbs down as it's really not very good food. As I like to get back to the tables ASAP, I usually eat at the buffet and have yet to try any of the nicer restaurant.
Overall rating 
 
3.9
Slots 
 
1.0
Table Games 
 
5.0
Customer Service 
 
4.0
Player's Club 
 
3.0
Gaming Atmosphere 
 
5.0
Amenities or Hotel 
 
5.0
Food & Drink 
 
4.0
Reviewed by Amanda L May 26, 2011
Last updated: May 26, 2011

Forget the machines!

I don't play the slot machines at Turning Stone unless they send me "freeplay" to play with. That being said, I thuroughly enjoy myself playing blackjack at TS. They give me whatever comps I ask for, including discounted or free rooms, free packs of cigarettes all day and night, and free food. They also have 2-deck blackjack now which I have done well at.
The rooms in the hotel are nice, but the rooms in the Tower are just gorgeous! My one complaint would be the late check in time of 3pm.
The buffet is very good, although not as good as it was when they first opened. I have also eaten at Emeralds, which is sort of dinner/burger joint. I give them a thumbs down as it's really not very good food. As I like to get back to the tables ASAP, I usually eat at the buffet and have yet to try any of the nicer restaurant.

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80% payback for this casino's slots would be generous, but they cannot be satisfied with that - the law of large numbers do not lie - have been going for 3 years, usually 2-3 times per week. embarrassed to say - net gambled each year - over $50,000, gross winnings = $25,000, net losses = $26,000 - that is every year, no variation from year to year. Average jackpot is $1200 but you can easily drop $600 in just a few hours on a 5 cent machine playing minimum per line bets. They track your betting (on an individual basis), and know your tendencies. This Indian casino is totally unregulated. The more you go, the worse it gets.
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1.2
Slots 
 
1.0
Table Games 
 
2.0
Customer Service 
 
1.0
Player's Club 
 
1.0
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1.0
Amenities or Hotel 
 
1.0
Food & Drink 
 
1.0
Reviewed by broke May 07, 2011
Last updated: May 07, 2011

not even fun (ny)

80% payback for this casino's slots would be generous, but they cannot be satisfied with that - the law of large numbers do not lie - have been going for 3 years, usually 2-3 times per week. embarrassed to say - net gambled each year - over $50,000, gross winnings = $25,000, net losses = $26,000 - that is every year, no variation from year to year. Average jackpot is $1200 but you can easily drop $600 in just a few hours on a 5 cent machine playing minimum per line bets. They track your betting (on an individual basis), and know your tendencies. This Indian casino is totally unregulated. The more you go, the worse it gets.

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I have NEVER left there up more then $20 dollars ahead of when i walked in.The payouts are awful.I understand they are in it to make money but the payouts are just way too few and far between. I only play the slots from the penny machines and up and have never noticed the higher costing machines to pay out more frequently. Only reason I go is because I enjoy playing the slots and the food is ok. The atmosphere is really good, nice and relaxed. I have been going less and less just sick of never winning. I don't like the fact that you have to use a card that is in your name to play almost so they can track how much money you spend and if you are a big spender they will throw you a bone every now and then. I wouldn't recommend turning stone to anyone. Just my opinion.
Overall rating 
 
1.7
Slots 
 
1.0
Table Games 
 
1.0
Customer Service 
 
1.0
Player's Club 
 
1.0
Gaming Atmosphere 
 
4.0
Amenities or Hotel 
 
1.0
Food & Drink 
 
3.0
Reviewed by dan March 24, 2011
Last updated: March 25, 2011

Pretty bad.

I have NEVER left there up more then $20 dollars ahead of when i walked in.The payouts are awful.I understand they are in it to make money but the payouts are just way too few and far between. I only play the slots from the penny machines and up and have never noticed the higher costing machines to pay out more frequently. Only reason I go is because I enjoy playing the slots and the food is ok. The atmosphere is really good, nice and relaxed. I have been going less and less just sick of never winning. I don't like the fact that you have to use a card that is in your name to play almost so they can track how much money you spend and if you are a big spender they will throw you a bone every now and then. I wouldn't recommend turning stone to anyone. Just my opinion.

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We have been visiting the casino since it opened.
My husband and I received a $100.00 gift card from our son, for Christmas. He knows that we enjoy playing the slot machines, as we have done in the past with the gift card that we receive..
At the cage, we were informed that this gift card was good only at the shops, hotels or for food and gas. We couldn't believe that our son wasn't told this upon purchasing the card.. We live 45 minutes away from the casino. We use our karats for food. We don't buy anything at the over priced shops. We are in our 70's and we go only for the slot machines.
This was a big disappointment to us. We have to use the card so we decided that getting gas was the only thing that made sense to us.
We know that in the end the casino will win but now, we don't even win enough to get excited about. Our free plays are a joke, as they are gone in minutes.
Overall rating 
 
2.0
Slots 
 
1.0
Table Games 
 
1.0
Customer Service 
 
1.0
Player's Club 
 
1.0
Gaming Atmosphere 
 
3.0
Amenities or Hotel 
 
3.0
Food & Drink 
 
4.0
Reviewed by Shirley Hamlin December 31, 2010

Mrs.

We have been visiting the casino since it opened.
My husband and I received a $100.00 gift card from our son, for Christmas. He knows that we enjoy playing the slot machines, as we have done in the past with the gift card that we receive..
At the cage, we were informed that this gift card was good only at the shops, hotels or for food and gas. We couldn't believe that our son wasn't told this upon purchasing the card.. We live 45 minutes away from the casino. We use our karats for food. We don't buy anything at the over priced shops. We are in our 70's and we go only for the slot machines.
This was a big disappointment to us. We have to use the card so we decided that getting gas was the only thing that made sense to us.
We know that in the end the casino will win but now, we don't even win enough to get excited about. Our free plays are a joke, as they are gone in minutes.

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I have been playing at the Turning Stone Casino for ten years. The rooms a lovely, and the Casino is always beautifully decorated during holidays. Especially Christmas. They have a Christmas sale where their clients can exchange Carrots earned for Christmas gifts and various posh deserts from their bakery. The lodge and hotel are exquisite. The food is well made. It doesn't matter which restaurant you eat at, the food is always cooked well and they always give you a very large quantity. The only negative I see is that the slot machines do not pay out very well unless you are an extremely high roller. However, handling money is up to you. They will give you free rooms once a month if you spend a decent amount of time & money there. They usually give people a free meal every week, even if you don't spend a lot of money. All and all I'd say that the Casino serves the community well. They bring in a lot of great talent to an impoverished area. They do well with, well let me say the people that have less money than most of us. They sell smokes at a fairly decent price. If you pick a penny machine, you are likely to walk away with at least enough money for a free pack of smokes, and a small meal. So, let's be fair. If you can't handle your money yourself, than maybe you shouldn't go there. It is your responsibility to set aside money and set a boundary for yourself. They offer all sorts of other choices. Movies, golf, hiking trails etc. You don't even have to gamble to have a great time there. Let's not forget all those beverages they pump out for free. All you have to do is sit down at a machine to get a free cup of coffee. Come on guys. Fess up.
Overall rating 
 
2.4
Slots 
 
1.0
Table Games 
 
1.0
Customer Service 
 
3.0
Player's Club 
 
2.0
Gaming Atmosphere 
 
2.0
Amenities or Hotel 
 
4.0
Food & Drink 
 
4.0
Reviewed by Claudia jims November 20, 2010

Turning Stone

I have been playing at the Turning Stone Casino for ten years. The rooms a lovely, and the Casino is always beautifully decorated during holidays. Especially Christmas. They have a Christmas sale where their clients can exchange Carrots earned for Christmas gifts and various posh deserts from their bakery. The lodge and hotel are exquisite. The food is well made. It doesn't matter which restaurant you eat at, the food is always cooked well and they always give you a very large quantity. The only negative I see is that the slot machines do not pay out very well unless you are an extremely high roller. However, handling money is up to you. They will give you free rooms once a month if you spend a decent amount of time & money there. They usually give people a free meal every week, even if you don't spend a lot of money. All and all I'd say that the Casino serves the community well. They bring in a lot of great talent to an impoverished area. They do well with, well let me say the people that have less money than most of us. They sell smokes at a fairly decent price. If you pick a penny machine, you are likely to walk away with at least enough money for a free pack of smokes, and a small meal. So, let's be fair. If you can't handle your money yourself, than maybe you shouldn't go there. It is your responsibility to set aside money and set a boundary for yourself. They offer all sorts of other choices. Movies, golf, hiking trails etc. You don't even have to gamble to have a great time there. Let's not forget all those beverages they pump out for free. All you have to do is sit down at a machine to get a free cup of coffee. Come on guys. Fess up.

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I am a frequent guest at the casino. Every time I go I never win. The machines brainwash you. You can sit there for hours and in the end you have lost all your money or you are just trying to break even. You never ever leave there with extra money in your pocket. It's always the same show, everyone complaining about not winning, the waitresses who are completely miserable. Save your money and stay home. Go to Vegas, to a real casino. This one is just making the CEO richer and richer. He is laughing all the way to the bank. People are fools to go there and support them. I have learned my lesson the hard way. I am staying away and in the end I am the winner for a change.
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1.0
Slots 
 
1.0
Table Games 
 
1.0
Customer Service 
 
1.0
Player's Club 
 
1.0
Gaming Atmosphere 
 
1.0
Amenities or Hotel 
 
1.0
Food & Drink 
 
1.0
Reviewed by cecilia October 01, 2010

Don't go, they do not payout at ALL

I am a frequent guest at the casino. Every time I go I never win. The machines brainwash you. You can sit there for hours and in the end you have lost all your money or you are just trying to break even. You never ever leave there with extra money in your pocket. It's always the same show, everyone complaining about not winning, the waitresses who are completely miserable. Save your money and stay home. Go to Vegas, to a real casino. This one is just making the CEO richer and richer. He is laughing all the way to the bank. People are fools to go there and support them. I have learned my lesson the hard way. I am staying away and in the end I am the winner for a change.

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My wife and I were out in New York to celebrate her dad's 80th birthday.We went to Turning Stone on a saturday morning.Crowd wasn't bad, not too smoky and unfortunately for me, no 3 reelers!

My wife played roulette..not too bad, but the whole cashless system for the machines is NOT user friendly! Money is loaded on a card with a PIN but half the time, you spend countless attempts inserting your card and getting "cannot read card". This did nothing but tick me off!

And you can keep their video reel machines. They have about 30 or so in 25 cent and dollar versions..No selection at all.(& I don't really like the video machines). So for me, the slots basically didn't do it! Can't really comment on anything else but I sure won't be hurrying back.
Overall rating 
 
2.4
Slots 
 
2.0
Table Games 
 
4.0
Customer Service 
 
2.0
Player's Club 
 
1.0
Gaming Atmosphere 
 
3.0
Amenities or Hotel 
 
3.0
Food & Drink 
 
2.0
Reviewed by RMB April 06, 2010

NO BIG DEAL

My wife and I were out in New York to celebrate her dad's 80th birthday.We went to Turning Stone on a saturday morning.Crowd wasn't bad, not too smoky and unfortunately for me, no 3 reelers!

My wife played roulette..not too bad, but the whole cashless system for the machines is NOT user friendly! Money is loaded on a card with a PIN but half the time, you spend countless attempts inserting your card and getting "cannot read card". This did nothing but tick me off!

And you can keep their video reel machines. They have about 30 or so in 25 cent and dollar versions..No selection at all.(& I don't really like the video machines). So for me, the slots basically didn't do it! Can't really comment on anything else but I sure won't be hurrying back.

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I always go to turning stone, I play mardi gras it only costs 2.25 to max but never lost my ass. I always start with $30 and the machine payed me between 200-600 in 20 minutes.

I also like the red white blues and the 2x3x4x5x and the 5x times and the triple diamonds they're awesome too.
Overall rating 
 
3.9
Slots 
 
4.0
Table Games 
 
2.0
Customer Service 
 
5.0
Player's Club 
 
4.0
Gaming Atmosphere 
 
4.0
Amenities or Hotel 
 
4.0
Food & Drink 
 
4.0
Reviewed by matt darling December 17, 2009

turning stone #1

I always go to turning stone, I play mardi gras it only costs 2.25 to max but never lost my ass. I always start with $30 and the machine payed me between 200-600 in 20 minutes.

I also like the red white blues and the 2x3x4x5x and the 5x times and the triple diamonds they're awesome too.

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I have been visiting the Turning Stone Casino since 1995. I cannot believe I still go back. Friends and ties keep me going. But my pocketbook says no, stay away you fool. Like once a very old dear friend told me, "you stay there and wake up sleeping on your belly as the arrows stick out your back" jd 2005. So I probably will return, againt my better judgement, only to get wounded again. lava is fun, food is good depending on which restaurant you select. DONT GAMBLE IF YOU ARE SMART!!!! You will not win, eventually they get you.

We all love superball, but it would be really nice if it paid at least 50% back to keep enjoying your evening and playing. No one wants to get rich.. just want to have fun. When you find people "locked" in their rooms, in debt and despair, it is very sad. Happy Thanksgiving Love and Peace To All. By the way, spent a fortune the last time, couldn't even get a dinner comp. Sad, very sad. Peace Out.

Overall rating 
 
1.7
Slots 
 
1.0
Table Games 
 
2.0
Customer Service 
 
2.0
Player's Club 
 
1.0
Gaming Atmosphere 
 
1.0
Amenities or Hotel 
 
3.0
Food & Drink 
 
2.0
Reviewed by bimbim November 26, 2009

Scary

I have been visiting the Turning Stone Casino since 1995. I cannot believe I still go back. Friends and ties keep me going. But my pocketbook says no, stay away you fool. Like once a very old dear friend told me, "you stay there and wake up sleeping on your belly as the arrows stick out your back" jd 2005. So I probably will return, againt my better judgement, only to get wounded again. lava is fun, food is good depending on which restaurant you select. DONT GAMBLE IF YOU ARE SMART!!!! You will not win, eventually they get you.

We all love superball, but it would be really nice if it paid at least 50% back to keep enjoying your evening and playing. No one wants to get rich.. just want to have fun. When you find people "locked" in their rooms, in debt and despair, it is very sad. Happy Thanksgiving Love and Peace To All. By the way, spent a fortune the last time, couldn't even get a dinner comp. Sad, very sad. Peace Out.

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I have been a player for years, spending thousands of dollars and they cut all my comps back. I asked why and got no reply.Their slot payouts are the tightest of any casino I have ever played in. If they were in Nevada their operation would be illegal. The odds are changed so their profits are always guaranteed. I found another place to play and get more bang for the buck. I will NEVER return.
Overall rating 
 
2.3
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1.0
Table Games 
 
2.0
Customer Service 
 
2.0
Player's Club 
 
2.0
Gaming Atmosphere 
 
3.0
Amenities or Hotel 
 
3.0
Food & Drink 
 
3.0
Reviewed by Depref July 21, 2009

Cheapskate casino

I have been a player for years, spending thousands of dollars and they cut all my comps back. I asked why and got no reply.Their slot payouts are the tightest of any casino I have ever played in. If they were in Nevada their operation would be illegal. The odds are changed so their profits are always guaranteed. I found another place to play and get more bang for the buck. I will NEVER return.

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I have been going to Turning Stone for years and have never won a jackpot. The payouts are terrible and I never see anyone winning. I gotta learn my lesson and stop going there.



Without any choices around, it's the only option. But they know that and continue to rip people off.? Save your money.

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1.2
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1.0
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1.0
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1.0
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1.0
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1.0
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1.0
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2.0
Reviewed by finny July 02, 2009

HORRIBLE!!!!


I have been going to Turning Stone for years and have never won a jackpot. The payouts are terrible and I never see anyone winning. I gotta learn my lesson and stop going there.



Without any choices around, it's the only option. But they know that and continue to rip people off.? Save your money.

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Out of probably 29 trips i have won only 2 times. Those are not the odds that keeps you coming back. I have decided to discontinue my visits.
Overall rating 
 
2.3
Slots 
 
1.0
Table Games 
 
3.0
Customer Service 
 
2.0
Player's Club 
 
5.0
Gaming Atmosphere 
 
3.0
Amenities or Hotel 
 
1.0
Food & Drink 
 
1.0
Reviewed by ricky bunn November 16, 2008

wish it was better

Out of probably 29 trips i have won only 2 times. Those are not the odds that keeps you coming back. I have decided to discontinue my visits.

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dingy

tight
Overall rating 
 
3.0
Slots 
 
3.0
Table Games 
 
3.0
Customer Service 
 
3.0
Player's Club 
 
3.0
Gaming Atmosphere 
 
3.0
Amenities or Hotel 
 
3.0
Food & Drink 
 
3.0
Reviewed by MareK January 01, 2006

mak

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tight

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I've just spent 4 months in Vegas for the 3rd time. I have visitedAC,NJ; Biloxi, Tunica and casinos nationwide.



Turning Stone is a terrific facility for its location. It's clean, modern, hotel rooms are great, there is golf nearby and the games offerred are as good or better than elsewhere.



I have visited Indian Casinos throughout the U.S. and Turning Stone is much better/nicer than almost all of them.

It is not as large and gaudy as Strip casinos but they are great for the market they cater to.



Stan B

Rockville, MD
Overall rating 
 
5.0
Slots 
 
5.0
Table Games 
 
5.0
Customer Service 
 
5.0
Player's Club 
 
5.0
Gaming Atmosphere 
 
5.0
Amenities or Hotel 
 
5.0
Food & Drink 
 
5.0
Reviewed by splittens January 01, 2006

Comments on Turning Stone

I've just spent 4 months in Vegas for the 3rd time. I have visitedAC,NJ; Biloxi, Tunica and casinos nationwide.



Turning Stone is a terrific facility for its location. It's clean, modern, hotel rooms are great, there is golf nearby and the games offerred are as good or better than elsewhere.



I have visited Indian Casinos throughout the U.S. and Turning Stone is much better/nicer than almost all of them.

It is not as large and gaudy as Strip casinos but they are great for the market they cater to.



Stan B

Rockville, MD

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Has many different slots to play, but all the machines seem to have a very low payout.
Overall rating 
 
3.0
Slots 
 
3.0
Table Games 
 
3.0
Customer Service 
 
3.0
Player's Club 
 
3.0
Gaming Atmosphere 
 
3.0
Amenities or Hotel 
 
3.0
Food & Drink 
 
3.0
Reviewed by dotbill January 01, 2006

Slots

Has many different slots to play, but all the machines seem to have a very low payout.

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